1 Step Wikidot Registration

Description

Instead of having to register for "wikidot", then register to the site that i wish to be a member of. Is it possible to register for the site i wish to become a member of, and then automatically be a member of wikidot.
ie. A one step process instead of two ?

Reasons for 1 Step Registration

  • Users frequently "join" wikidot from a particular wiki without realizing they need to go back and join the original wiki as well, hurting the individual wiki's membership and participation. Some users figure it out and get their second membership, others get frustrated and leave.
  • On a fairly regular basis in the community forums, someone pops up who has just joined, and asks a very specific question that has nothing to do with wikidot, but is clearly related to the content of a particular wiki. They joined, got pushed over to wikidot.com, thought they were still at the same site they joined from, clicked the forums (which led, unbeknownst to them, to the community forums), and asked a question. Some of these users may never make it back to the original wiki they tried to join. That's bad for the wiki, and it's bad for wikidot too. If they had participated in and gotten help from the original wiki, their chances of becoming a long-time member participating in multiple wikis increases, whereas if they get frustrated and leave, wikidot loses traffic and potential ad revenue, not to mention frustrating individual wiki admin who should have had one more member and contributer.

Links to forum Posts

http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-23673/serious-user-sign-up-problem

Examples of Users Getting Lost

http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-80763/risks-and-benefits-of-using-linux-file-server-in-a-windows-environment
http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-12687/truly-hidden-forums#post-234327
http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-82566/help-with-looping-and-the-2nd-bloodline-in-season-2


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Comments

Badly needed feature
mmclean89mmclean89 1212352037|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

This is really needed. Half the people who do the "Join this page" process at my wiki only join wikidot and forget to join my wiki. The proposed idea would fix this and streamline the process nicely.

unfold Badly needed feature by mmclean89mmclean89, 1212352037|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Badly needed feature
David MarseillesDavid Marseilles 1214335153|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

That's been happening to me a lot lately too.

unfold Re: Badly needed feature by David MarseillesDavid Marseilles, 1214335153|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
kawinakawina 1212804863|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wow, that's a great idea! I strongly hope it gets implemented.

unfold by kawinakawina, 1212804863|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Great idea!
maharajamaharaja 1214352503|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I agree, the two-step model doesn't make sense to me. When you become a member of a Wikidot site, you should automatically become a member of Wikidot as well.

unfold Great idea! by maharajamaharaja, 1214352503|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Good ! And more ?
spirspir 1219156661|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I agree with this. We can go farther :

There should be a registration form for a wiki site, that allows the new member to optionally register to wikidot itself with a simple checkbox.
So that one could be member of :

  • wikidot (like now)
  • the wiki he/she joins alone
  • both (with checkbox)
unfold Good ! And more ? by spirspir, 1219156661|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Good ! And more ?
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1219159105|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I believe there are a lot of legal problems araising if I can get membership of a wiki but not of wikidot.com itself…

unfold Re: Good ! And more ? by Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf, 1219159105|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Good ! And more ?
strathviewstrathview 1219159693|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I agree that the 2-step process is not very user-friendly and would welcome a more slick system that doesn't fall foul of wikidot's rules.

Rob

unfold Re: Good ! And more ? by strathviewstrathview, 1219159693|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Good ! And more ?
David MarseillesDavid Marseilles 1219174986|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

@spir: All of your account information resides with wikidot, so in addition to any legal consequences, there are major technical barriers to what you suggest as well. This wish mainly deals with the presentation of initial registration. Your (spir) suggestion has much, much wider implications.

In addition to the technical issues and the difficulty implementing it, not having a general wikidot account would deny users the ability to participate here in the community support forums, as well as probably thousands of other wiki's that don't require specific membership to post and contribute material. At the time of registration, it would be difficult to explain to someone new to wikidot what they would be giving up by unchecking, or leaving that box unchecked.

In addition to the severe technical and user costs of optional wikidot.com registration, it's unclear what benefits it would bring. So long as this wish is implemented, and 1 step registration is put into place, I can't see what additional benefit any user derives from being able to opt out of (or having to opt-in to) wikidot.com membership. Of course, just because I can't see them, doesn't mean they don't exist. What sort of benefits did you envision spir?

last edited on 1219175195|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover by David Marseilles + show more
unfold Re: Good ! And more ? by David MarseillesDavid Marseilles, 1219174986|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Good ! And more ?
morrisgmorrisg 1219254870|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hi.
I'm in the process of setting up 3 wiki sites for Bowls Clubs /Computer Clubs in Spain.
I have found the same difficulty with the 2-tier application.
Accepting DAVID MARSEILLES reply as valid ( for whatever legal or financial reason….doesn't concern me), none of his reply undermines the principle that you should be able to join a WIKI ….and….WIKIDOT at the same time.

An application for membership of a WIKI will automatically create a WIKIDOT account.

Sometimes simple logic is hard to accept!

morrisg

unfold Re: Good ! And more ? by morrisgmorrisg, 1219254870|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Good ! And more ?
David MarseillesDavid Marseilles 1219255836|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

none of his reply undermines the principle that you should be able to join a WIKI ….and….WIKIDOT at the same time.

I would certainly hope not.

You do realize I'm entirely in favor of this solution? In addition to voting for it, and editing it to include additional reasons for adoption, I promote it every chance I get.

There just doesn't appear to be reason, as someone suggested, to go through the trouble of registering for a wiki and NOT getting registered for wikidot at the same time.

unfold Re: Good ! And more ? by David MarseillesDavid Marseilles, 1219255836|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
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