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Description
In the site manager, we have a grid that we can change to provide edit permissions that we can change per category. I would really like an additional row that would give us adjustable PAGE view permissions.
It would also be rather good to have the same sort of viewable permissions applied to forum categories
Whilst I fully appreciate that the common workaround to this is setting up an additional wiki and setting it to private, I find this rather inelegant for my wiki members.
It is my belief that this would be major step forward to the power of wikidot.
Related: permissions per group of users
It would be nice to have a system in which users can belong to custom groups or have different roles other than admins and moderators.
Links to forum Posts
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-168/view-page-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-1835/different-users-different-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-12687/truly-hidden-forums#post-189525
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-66487/custom-group-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-71620/private-forum-threads#post-212383
Comments
I agree. I would like to be able to make some pages visible only to my members, like "recent changes" for example, or admin or system pages…
On the other hand, I thought of something a little bit different… I thought of only link on navigation sidebar to be visible to memebers. If an outsider does not see it, he cannot open it either…
My wiki absolutely needs some pages that are only viewable to a subset of members. Currently my only option is to make the entire wiki private and possibly create a second public wiki… not optimal, as we all know.
Not every wiki has an entirely insync group, and it would be nice to allow for individual or group blogs, give someone authority over a single subforum without them being able to interefere in someone else's, and I'm sure there are other applications as well.
I think David Marseilles has put the point of view that many have………expanding the permissions available.
At the moment it's a bit like tying one hand behind your back……….you MUST learn to do it with one hand!
But why not move forward and improve the WIKIDOT facilities?
I've been reduced to having to get another person to COPY a page, create a new page and then copy the syntax into the new page, then delete the old page………..just so he can have permission restricted to him.
DAFT!
I quote vtsts_admin: same suggestion, same problem. View permissions will be perfect!
I wholeheartedly agree!
This feature would be EXTREMELY helpful…
This feature would be great for us. We had as private site for several months and now want to make some of it public. The only course of action it seemed was to create a separate site. We did contact wikidot admin to see if they can clone our private site for us so that we have the revision history (etc) but we have not heard back from them. Even with this, splitting a site (with or without cloning) is an ugly process.
Add another request for this. Thanks!
The wish is clear and understandable…but:
what should wikidot system do with pages "not allowed" to view for a specific group of users?
The all known OOOPPS screen?
or this page does not exist `?
I beleive , on a long term of politics the solution to view all or nothing (=Private) is better and a clear split.. between user groups.
Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de(en)
It should point to a particular, admin-editable page with a generic message. If they don't like the message, they can change it. Providing this option wouldn't prevent other wiki owners from using the present split site mechanism—but from the response here, it seems a lot of people aren't thrilled with that solution.
And don't forget the custom group permissions part of this wish. Even if it's decided not to allow parts of wikis to be private, it would be very helpful to be able to create limited user sets with limited permissions (to a particular category and/or particular forum).
Whether the page exists or not, if trying to access a page in a category you can not view, you should get the exact same message. It should be along the lines of, "You do not have permission to access this category" followed by a custom per category message set by the admin in the site manager, or something like that.
I definitely support Brunhilda's idea of hidden links.
The wiki splitting solution is ugly. The view-forbidding as well.
Pages not allowed to users should simply not exist for them. It's the only consistent way of doing it. Thus, the view settings (for a category of pages & and a category of users) in the site manager should consequently hide the links pointing to such pages to unauthorized users.
In fact, it's not necessary to hide the links in the page contents, only in the nav bars. For instance, you have an "admin" link in your side bar linking to a page that leads to all your admin tolls. If the first link is hidden, then all your admin system is unreachable.
denis
Thank you spir.
The most elegant solution is to be able to make invisible the links to the pages I don't want to be seen by anybody except my wikidot site members. There should be some simple sintaxis that I could add in inserting the link in a page so that link appears invisible if the site is viewed by those who are not members of the site.
Why someone should see, for example, recent changes, or site manager (even though it has access denied for those who are not administrators of the site), or even forum and conversations? There are two, or three categories of the pages I want to be accessible to anybody, and nothing else. I do hope that wikidot developers would come out with some solution to this very soon… :)
This is a partial working solution, it will probably only work under some circumstances:
How to Display Private Content on a Public Site If you have ideas for improvement please post in under the discussion tab. Thanks.
How about simply creating such pages in the "admin" category?
Have you tried it Kawina??
Unless im missing something you shouldn't be able to read this page :-
http://psc.wikidot.com/admin:front-page
I could read
Post Scriptum: never use front-page / Frontpage in any manner !
Aide Wikidot en Français ? Handbook !!!
Sorry, Kawina, but now ( in this moment) EVERY Page in a "public" Wiki can be read by every one in the web.
What you perhaps mean is the extra called admin-manage "module" which has an extra security level built in.
This has nothing to do with the permissions on level - categories…
I think, we have to wait for a generic solution or use a private site for some pages…
Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de(en)
I like the idea of being able to group members into different groups and allowing specific access (reading/editing) of certain pages to certain groups. If anyone else tries to access that, they would get the "Access Denied" page instead.
Hope this helps the discussion along. :)
I've improved my hack used to setup staff pages within a public site visible to staff members only (or use any term you wish to replace "staff"). It's not 100% perfect but it's very very close, like 98%. The code is much cleaner and includes more elements stipping away several steps in the setup process. I also improved the instructions which even confused me after reading it again. :D
And… I even found a solution to display public site information (such as a list of pages using the list module) within a private staff page too. Though in this case, anyone familiar with the module and with page creation access could just create the code on their own, but unless you are trying to hide top secret government secrets it should be okay.
Hack Instructions: Private Pages In a Public Wikidot
I use this solution for a couple of my sites and it allows me to display a "staff" link trusting that no matter who clicks it, only staff members will be able to view the content.
The instructions are over-kill but it assumes the reader has no clue. If you are familiar with the wiki syntax then this can be explained in a single sentence… imbed a page from a private wiki within the page of a public wiki using iframe and add your staff members to your private wiki. Be sure to comment any ideas you may have to improve the hack within the comments section. Thanks.
Sent you a PM with the new place of this howto text ( for history only…)
What was wrong?
Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de(en)
This would be a fantastic option, its a must if you ask me.
I work in a school and we are using wikidot as part of a joint website between two other shcools. We want to have a forum for teachers to discuss management and organization information, and a separate one for the kids to talk to each other.
As it stands with wikidot there is no way of doing this without to separate sites, which is by no means practical.
Much needed feature. In the meantime I will be trying Whane the Whip's hack when I am less tired (brilliant name, BTW!)