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Phil Chett on 1210860782|%A %d %b %Y|agohover, last edited on 1250079924|%e %b %Y at %H:%M |agohover
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In the site manager, we have a grid that we can change to provide edit permissions that we can change per category. I would really like an additional row that would give us adjustable PAGE view permissions.
It would also be rather good to have the same sort of viewable permissions applied to forum categories
Whilst I fully appreciate that the common workaround to this is setting up an additional wiki and setting it to private, I find this rather inelegant for my wiki members.
It is my belief that this would be major step forward to the power of wikidot.
Related: permissions per group of users
It would be nice to have a system in which users can belong to custom groups or have different roles other than admins and moderators.
Links to forum Posts
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-168/view-page-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-1835/different-users-different-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-12687/truly-hidden-forums#post-189525
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-66487/custom-group-permissions
- http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-71620/private-forum-threads#post-212383
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I agree. I would like to be able to make some pages visible only to my members, like "recent changes" for example, or admin or system pages…
On the other hand, I thought of something a little bit different… I thought of only link on navigation sidebar to be visible to memebers. If an outsider does not see it, he cannot open it either…
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My wiki contains a number of articles that are published as they are finished.
Now, in order to keep them private from general viewing until they are ready, I have to maintain a whole other site for admins and mods.
So at the moment that means:
1. Maintaining code for 2 sites, public and private.
2. Admins/Mods need to be members of both.
3. When publishing articles that are finished, all files, internal page-links, images etc, need to a) be moved, b) have their links adjusted, and c) be tested to see that they are all working properly (ie no broken links).
What I would rather do, is to have a page that can be made "invisible" to the public, so that they cannot view or find this webpage until it is ready.
Please, please, please, make page permissions selectable on a per-page basis. Or even on a per-catagory basis at least.
I definitely support the request for permissions on a per-category basis
Rob
Rob Elliott - Strathpeffer, Scotland - member of the Wikidot first line support team.
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Yes, per CATEGORY is better than per PAGE
Shane Smith ★ Website: Wikidot Development & Programming. ★ STE Wikidot Editor: Windows. Mac. Linux. ★ Twitter. Google+.
Do not say it's better. Both are good.
In Confluence, you can restrict access to one single page and automatically, ALL children and ALL descendants inherit the restriction.
Once removed, it is removed for all descendants, too. That's powerful and useful.
I agree!!! It should be possible to restrict the whole category form Site Manager, but also to make only one page invisible, as it is possible to lock it.
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My wiki absolutely needs some pages that are only viewable to a subset of members. Currently my only option is to make the entire wiki private and possibly create a second public wiki… not optimal, as we all know.
Not every wiki has an entirely insync group, and it would be nice to allow for individual or group blogs, give someone authority over a single subforum without them being able to interefere in someone else's, and I'm sure there are other applications as well.
I think David Marseilles has put the point of view that many have………expanding the permissions available.
At the moment it's a bit like tying one hand behind your back……….you MUST learn to do it with one hand!
But why not move forward and improve the WIKIDOT facilities?
I've been reduced to having to get another person to COPY a page, create a new page and then copy the syntax into the new page, then delete the old page………..just so he can have permission restricted to him.
DAFT!
I quote vtsts_admin: same suggestion, same problem. View permissions will be perfect!
I wholeheartedly agree!
This feature would be EXTREMELY helpful…
This feature would be great for us. We had as private site for several months and now want to make some of it public. The only course of action it seemed was to create a separate site. We did contact wikidot admin to see if they can clone our private site for us so that we have the revision history (etc) but we have not heard back from them. Even with this, splitting a site (with or without cloning) is an ugly process.
Add another request for this. Thanks!
The wish is clear and understandable…but:
what should wikidot system do with pages "not allowed" to view for a specific group of users?
The all known OOOPPS screen?
or this page does not exist `?
I beleive , on a long term of politics the solution to view all or nothing (=Private) is better and a clear split.. between user groups.
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It should point to a particular, admin-editable page with a generic message. If they don't like the message, they can change it. Providing this option wouldn't prevent other wiki owners from using the present split site mechanism—but from the response here, it seems a lot of people aren't thrilled with that solution.
And don't forget the custom group permissions part of this wish. Even if it's decided not to allow parts of wikis to be private, it would be very helpful to be able to create limited user sets with limited permissions (to a particular category and/or particular forum).
Whether the page exists or not, if trying to access a page in a category you can not view, you should get the exact same message. It should be along the lines of, "You do not have permission to access this category" followed by a custom per category message set by the admin in the site manager, or something like that.
I definitely support Brunhilda's idea of hidden links.
The wiki splitting solution is ugly. The view-forbidding as well.
Pages not allowed to users should simply not exist for them. It's the only consistent way of doing it. Thus, the view settings (for a category of pages & and a category of users) in the site manager should consequently hide the links pointing to such pages to unauthorized users.
In fact, it's not necessary to hide the links in the page contents, only in the nav bars. For instance, you have an "admin" link in your side bar linking to a page that leads to all your admin tolls. If the first link is hidden, then all your admin system is unreachable.
denis
Thank you spir.
The most elegant solution is to be able to make invisible the links to the pages I don't want to be seen by anybody except my wikidot site members. There should be some simple sintaxis that I could add in inserting the link in a page so that link appears invisible if the site is viewed by those who are not members of the site.
Why someone should see, for example, recent changes, or site manager (even though it has access denied for those who are not administrators of the site), or even forum and conversations? There are two, or three categories of the pages I want to be accessible to anybody, and nothing else. I do hope that wikidot developers would come out with some solution to this very soon… :)
Vir bonus miser vocari, at esse non potest miser.
This is a partial working solution, it will probably only work under some circumstances:
How to Display Private Content on a Public Site If you have ideas for improvement please post in under the discussion tab. Thanks.
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How about simply creating such pages in the "admin" category?
Eduardo R. Ribeiro
Macro-Jê linguistics, &c.
Have you tried it Kawina??
Unless im missing something you shouldn't be able to read this page :-
http://psc.wikidot.com/admin:front-page
.Goal NHGC
I could read
Post Scriptum: never use front-page / Frontpage in any manner !
Sorry, Kawina, but now ( in this moment) EVERY Page in a "public" Wiki can be read by every one in the web.
What you perhaps mean is the extra called admin-manage "module" which has an extra security level built in.
This has nothing to do with the permissions on level - categories…
I think, we have to wait for a generic solution or use a private site for some pages…
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I like the idea of being able to group members into different groups and allowing specific access (reading/editing) of certain pages to certain groups. If anyone else tries to access that, they would get the "Access Denied" page instead.
Hope this helps the discussion along. :)