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Phil Chett on 1184930633|%e %b %Y|agohover, last edited by
Phil Chett on 1234454926|%e %b %Y at %H:%M |agohover
Here is the german version on our Handbook: Forum - Notfall-Hilfe !
The following has not been fully tested. I'm hoping someone who has managed to break their forums, use this, and let us know if it works! (please?)
Avoiding &^%$ Ups
From bitter experience i have learnt that it is relatively easy to render your forums inoperable. As have others!
The cause of this is usually because you have deleted something that you shouldn't.
Deleting POSTS does not cause any problems but deleting THREADS may, and deleting Categories can almost certainly lead to disaster.
Have a look in Site Manager » Forum & discussion » Structure
However you have set up your forum you will have a HIDDEN Category
In there is a deleted threads section.
MOVE unwanted Categories to the Hidden section
MOVE unwanted Threads to the deleted section
Oops! too late: The FIX
Look in "List all pages"
There should be the following pages required to have a working Forum
- Forum Categories
- Forum Category
- Forum Thread
- Recent Threads
- Recent Forum Posts
If any of these are missing or corrupt, then they need replacing/re-coding.
Re-create page
Forum Categories.
This should have a page re-created called
forum:start
The title should read
Forum Categories
and the code inside should be
[[module ForumStart]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
Forum Category
This should have a page re-created called
forum:category
The title should read
Forum Category
and the code inside should be
[[module ForumCategory]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
New Forum Thread
This should have a page re-created called
forum:new-thread
The title should read
New Forum Thread
and the code inside should be
[[module ForumNewThread]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
Forum Thread
This should have a page re-created called
forum:thread
The title should read
Forum Thread
and the code inside should be
[[module ForumThread]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
Recent Forum Posts
This should have a page re-created called
forum:recent-posts
The title should read
Recent Forum Posts
and the code inside should be
[[module RecentPosts]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
After re- creating the missing pages, your forums should now start to work again……
i hope :))
Phil's Quick forum fixing guide
The following is something that i was recently playing with that seems to work.
Give it a try, and let us know if it does the trick.
If you have found any of this how to useful, dont forget to rate it :-)
Phils quick, oops i cocked up my forum guide :-)
Copy this code into any new page on your wiki
||~ #||~ page title ||~ Page name (url)||~ Required Inserted Module||
||1||forum Categories|| [[[Forum:start ]]]||@@[[module ForumStart]]@@||
||2||forum Category||[[[forum:category]]]||@@[[module ForumCategory]]@@||
||3||Forum Thread||[[[forum:thread]]]||@@[[module ForumThread]]@@||
||4||New Forum Thread||[[[forum:new-thread]]]||@@[[module ForumNewThread]]@@||
||5||Recent Forum Posts||[[[forum:recent-posts]]]||@@[[module RecentPosts]]@@||
You will then have a table like this below.
Look in the page name column. If any pages are missing they will show up as a different colour (theme dependant)
- Click on the offending link.
- This will prompt you to create a new page
- Create the new page, inserting the correct module,
- Change the page title to that in the first column of the table
| # | page title | Page name (url) | Required Inserted Module |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | forum Categories | start | [[module ForumStart]] |
| 2 | forum Category | category | [[module ForumCategory]] |
| 3 | Forum Thread | thread | [[module ForumThread]] |
| 4 | New Forum Thread | new-thread | [[module ForumNewThread]] |
| 5 | Recent Forum Posts | recent-posts | [[module RecentPosts]] |
Authors
Phil Chett. Please visit his/her userPage.






Thanks a lot for this info. It worked great for my after one of our "Admin" users deleted the "forum:thread" page.
Good info. I fixed my forum after using the WRONG delete option.
Note to self and others: By all means "move a thread/post to hidden:deleted" but don't use the "delete page" option at the bottom. That's a global thing you want to avoid in the forum.
This fixed my bonehead mistakes!
When you move something to the hidden category it seems that the option to 'show' the hidden category is available to anyone ~ How do you remove the 'show' option?
Hi all I have a problem with my forum pages that falls outside of the 'fixes'.
I? have all the pages coded correctly but can not for the life of me work out where the buttons have gone.
Is there a way to delete the forum and start from scratch, I went through the step by step guide to creating the forum and didnt see anywhere to activate it, could this be that it has been activated already.
for those that need to look the forum is at http://rmaa.wikidot.com/rmaa-wiki-forum
any assistance would be appreciated
Cheers
You cant start from scratch.
have you set any categories in the forum
http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forum-step-by-step
I have set 1 category but the problem i have is that there are no buttons to allow the users to post anywhere or add new replies
if you go to http://rmaa.wikidot.com/rmaa-wiki-forum you will see what i mean
cheers
http://rmaa.wikidot.com/forum:start
this is from your site. there are NO categories
please re-read and follow
http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forum-step-by-step
so that it looks more like
http://psc.wikidot.com/forum:start
Thanks a lot!
I fixed my forum at least :)
I have read your page above, it has provided me with better knowledge, but I'm still unfamiliar with this stuff…
Anyways…
My situation is pretty similar, or even exact - I was hoping that you could tell me how to recover all the threads of my forum. The site is lolwiki.wikidot.com
I was browsing the forums, and noticed a thread I didn't want. I proceeded to deleting it. After I deleted it, I tried accessing other threads… The result I got was a page saying "This page does not (yet) exist."
I posted a lot of stuff on, and I was looking to keeping it too, so I need help on recovering it……
Any advice is greatly anticipated and accepted…
Consider this as an urgent S.O.S. with quite a few users waiting for the forums to work again.
You deleted the page, not the thread. Remake the page with the following code:
[[module ForumThread]]
[!-- please do not alter this page if you want to keep your forum working --]
(Note: I got that code right from this page!, options, then view source)
Alright, thanks.
I've fixed the forums :D
Anyways, thanks again. Be sure to visit www.lolwiki.wikidot.com!
http://osagecollege.wikidot.com/start
I am having a bit of a problem…
when I post a new thread, it does not auto appear under the "Click here to visit our discussion forum. " button, but only under "recent posts". what am i doing wrong?
thanks.
And when you click on the link, it is blank…
go to this page :-
http://osagecollege.wikidot.com/forum/t-88825/test
now compare the history between the first and last revisions.
you will see something like…
the last line is trying to tell you something! :-)))))
to resolve your issues, revert the page back to revision 1.
Hi Phil,
I thínk the problem's solved now… Thanks 4 the advise!
Thanks a lot. Your page is a good help. Not easy to find that page in Wikidot.
As usefull page, please, put it in a easy place to see it quick. Thanks :D
I went over all the pages in "list pages" all seem to be there with right code. My problem: when you click on a thread within a category it refers to one persons post, all the threads do this. I can see all the new post in "recent posts" but they dont show up in the thread.
Because your site is private i cant see anything, and my crystal ball has run out of crystals.
Balls or no balls, i reckon you have deleted something you shouldn't.
Check the pages again.
i wonder why this wiki page has only got a rating of three?
…but it's still not working properly. Do I have to delete all these pages and then re-create them?
nope!:if its not working properly then you have missed something. i would have a look but your site is private.
I seem to have the same problem as some others. I carelessly deleted a thread thinking it was deleting the thread not threads in general. I found your instructions Phil, and saw I was missing the page Forum Thread which I recreated as instructed. Problem is that it still does not work. When I click on the Forum Thread page it states that it is an "invalid thread". Any ideas?
Dan
FIXED. thread and new thread were bottom about breast
This is okay on the "forum:thread" page — have a look on our community http://community.wikidot.com/forum:thread ( opens in a new window!) .
You should have only the 3 lines:
Only the system need the page!
What you realy need is the "forum:start" page!
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I think I have everything right, but I still can't see my forum, nor the page discussions. Could this be something with my network that might restrict it? I'm stumped. Any help is greatly apppreciated!
No - normally this nothing to do with networking. If you are an admin of your site ( and logged in) than you should have the ocntrol over the forum pages.
Can You control again all the steps in the http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forum-step-by-step and compare with your site?
Is really every "Group" & every "category" under the groups defined and SAVED ?
Can you see the forum categories in your page http://stoughtonoasis.wikidot.com/forum:start ?
Looks it like our http://community.wikidot.com/forum:start ? ( the main entry ? )
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figured it out. it was the bloo theme in internet explorer.
glad that it was nothing I did, but it should be noted somewhere on the site.
I've got some difficulties with my sites forum the site is here. Now if you go to the C languages you'll notice it says No forum category has been specified.
Join Codeworld.
Also check out my blog.
Looks lie you have no category defined ?
Or the permissions in the site manager of these categories not set?
1. I have no chance to have a look on the page source - I cannot "view source"…
2. I am not an admin of your site you should control the forum : fixing them : http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forums-fixing-them
==> 3. What is with the category names ? they are a little "short" inmy oppinion.. this should not disturb, but who knows…
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one of the members of my wiki has deleted the forum,
tanks to your steps i was able to recreate the forum
thank you very much
How can I make my uploaded files easily accessible?
How can I make my uploaded files easily accessible?
In what way do you mean easily accessible? All files uploaded to a page are accessible from the files link at the bottom of the page. But of course only the files on that page are listed. What I tend to do is to keep all images together on their own dedicated page, perhaps called something like files:images, and all other files like pdfs or word docs on their own page with a name like files:docs. And then I just link to them when I need to using for example:
Keeping files together in this way reduces the risk of or need for multiple copies of the same file spread across your wiki.
Rob
I have created a blog at ketan.wikidot.com
While creating the blog I have created a page "blog:_template" where I added the comments module.
Just to test commets, I added a comment on a blog post and then deleted it.
But now when I click Add a comment for that blog post, I am getting this error "Oooops! No thread found… Is it deleted?"
This error is coming on two blog posts out of the four that I currently have on the website.
I have checked all forum pages such as forum:thread, forum:category, etc. They are intact.
Please help.
moc.ebnez|natek#moc.ebnez|natek
Seems you have deleted the PAGE containg the Threads ( and not deleted the ONE Single post….:)
http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forums-fixing-them - thsi is the page where you are writing your post here…
LOOK !
==> Create a page called
forum:thread
( if this exists anyway - than there is a more serous error)
and insert ONLY the line [[module ForumThread]]
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the correct pages appear to be there, but i cant check to see if the correct modules are in place because i dont have access to your source code.
i have tried to replicate the problem on my own site, but cannot regenerate the fault. So i can only conclude there is a problem with a specific forum page.
1. http://ketan.wikidot.com/forum/c-74829/per-page-discussions shows the hidden per page discussion
there are in the count of "10 threads" ( ?? ) only 3 visible and 2 are "erased" - have a look.
You have deleted the THREADS and bot the Comments & single POSTS!
No idea which page this was … there is no backup available..
Could be you have to rename you pages with the missing comment-threads to another one and create the comments module new.
And please - do not delete a thread! The thread is connected with his t-### number to the page containing the commemts module…
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This fixed the problem I created by deleting the page (i.e, using the delete at the bottom) instead of for the test thread I was removing.
Thank you!!
Give it 10 stars. At this rate, I will need to store it on my front page.
I have forum groups and forum categories under each group. I want to tag only one group to a certain page. If I do
I get all the groups and all the categories. Is there a way to only get one group or category to show?
example:
My page is titled TEAM, so I want to have a seperate forum for TEAM
If I understand what you mean, I think turning on Per page discussions will do what you want. This would attach a single discussion thread to each page you set up this way (you'll want assign one or more categories to the pages you want the per page discussion enabled for and then go into Site Manager > Forum & discussion > Per page discussion and assign the categories.
If I don't understand what you mean, and you want to have multiple threads going for each "page", then you can use the forum as you have it set up. You can create links to individual categories by doing something like this. This example is showing direct links to the first 3 categories in this community forum:
General community discussion
How may we help you?
New Wikidot sites
The code is just the standard links:
I find it easiest to click each category link and then copy/paste the link back into my wiki source.
-Ed
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Thanks! A quick solution to fix my forum *#$%-up in less than 10 minutes after a Google search. You guys are great!
My forum is hidden and I have no idea how to fix it. If I click 'show hidden' the forum is visible for a short time. As soon as I leave the forum and return, it is hidden again. I've been trying to fix it for two days now. I cannot find the reason why it is hidden. Can someone please explain to me how I can make the forum permanent visble?:):)
You have already created a forum thread here, so there is no real reason to double post.
Okay, so did you check your site manager, to check to see if you put the forum categories in the hidden section?
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Yeah, I checked the sitemanager but the problem is I that cannot find how to chance the settings from hidden to not hidden. There doesn't seem to be a choice. I checked it over and over again and I see no options there. It looks like this to me:
ik begrijp er niets van:)
(I don't understand anything), yet.
You might have already done this, but have a read of http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forums-fixing-them which should put you on the right path.
If all else fails, invite one of the community admins (Phil Chett, helmuti_pdorf or me for example) to be a temporary admin of your site and we'll fix it for you.
Rob
Hi Rob,
In fact I read that but I'll do it again if you think the answer is there. Alle I need to know is how to chance the settings from hidden to not hidden. Lemme have another look.:) Thnx so far. Maybe I get back to you to invite you to admin 4 me.:) thnx so far
Daphne.
Ah, I found it. It was a setting in 'structure'. Thanx again, gentlemen.:)
Here's the SAVED forum structure to prove I have both a group and three categories (heck, I closed the browser & logged back in to get this)
I also followed Phil's Quick forum fixing guide and all the pages are unedited but do exist.
I followed http://community.wikidot.com/howto:forum-step-by-step#toc5 line by line, three times.
Don't tell me it's really easy! Here's the page: http://wednesday2009.wikidot.com/admin:manage
but http://wednesday2009.wikidot.com/forum:start
shows nothing.
when I edit the above, it shows:
Thanks for any help!
As your site is private we can't see what's happening. Would you temporarily make it public please so we can have a look.
Rob
Wow, thanks! It's public.
Your forum is working OK. I clicked forum in the side bar which took me to Forum Categories - you have 3 set up. Then when I clicked on one of those, for example I release, it took me to the page where I could click the button to create a new thread within the I release category. I couldn't create the a thread to test it as you haven't opened up the permissions to allow non-members to do so, but it does seem to be working as it should.
Rob
I never saw that, until I saw your email and tried again. So, what did I miss? I'm in tech, and I know I get cocky some times, but please, take me down a peg!
One possibility: timing/locks expiring. I do have a habit of clicking edit to see the page's source, then just clicking somewhere else/changing the URL directly. Once when I did this, I got told a page I revisited was locked by another user, etc.
If you have the page editor open, don't go anywhere else without first pressing Cancel or Save or you do risk a page lock (although you can see who has locked the page and if itr is you then you can cancel the lock).
You mentioned editing the Forum: Start page - it's best not until you are very comfortable with wiki syntax and what different modules do. If you happen to delete the module on that page it will make your forum unusable, at least temporarily until you put the module back.
Rob
Did everything here still my forum doesn't work could you please look at the address what is wrong? I checked all the pages created categories etc.
https://torontoturk.wikidot.com/test
I know this is a bit confusing
You have set up a number of "groups" in admin:manage.
What you haven't done is set up categories within those groups.
Once you have done that, then you will be able to add threads.
Then it will look a bit more like this:-
http://community.wikidot.com/forum:start
If after adding some categories you are still having probs, then please change the permissions for the forum so that i can at least see the source code.
PS: the only reference required in the top bar is forum and recent post
remove all other the others.