Automatic Backup

Summary:

Email backup.zip to me automatically after xx amount of time

Automatic Backup

RealG187 13 Aug 2008 02:50

I was thinking. I backup my Wiki often since I like to backup just in case.

I would like to have the backup.zip automatically made and send as an attachment to the email address in my wikidot profile. I think that would be a good option, this way for people who might forget to backup can have it done for them, and since I use my mail with Yahoo the backup will not be on Wikidots servers so if Wikidots server crashes the backup will be safe on their server. (This feature might not be so well for Wikidot admins who have their email accounts on the Wikidot server…)

Re: Automatic Backup

Helmuti_pdorf 13 Aug 2008 10:12

Could be a dangerous thing.. send me a mail with 300 MB files (even zipped) atttached…

Could work for "old", not longer used/changed wikis too - sending always mails and mails and mails ….perhaps to adresses which does not exist anymore…

I would not allow such automatic tasks - ( and is against the ToS too…).. giving control away to scripts..

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Re: Automatic Backup

David Marseilles 13 Aug 2008 23:26

Most email accounts would reject files that size, still there's something to be said for the feature. If it were triggered by site updates, it wouldn't create a problem for abandoned/finished wikis.

And I think he's suggesting a feature. It's not against ToS if wikidot is the source of the automation.

Rather than updating to email, perhaps it could send the file to a file hosting service, like mediafire, so email addresses wouldn't be a problem. I could see a feature like that being pretty useful.

Last edited on 13 Aug 2008 23:31 by David Marseilles + Show more

Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 22 Aug 2008 01:23

My Latest Backup is only 132.56 kB

I just want the text of my Wiki backed up.

Don't you only get 10 MB of free hosting (or is the 300 MB thing for people who pay) anyways.

Free or paid, I just want the text of my Wiki. Any images I upload or on image hosting sites (and on my hard drive anyways).

Re: Automatic Backup

Helmuti_pdorf 22 Aug 2008 07:28

1. 300MB is FREE per SITE! ( now, looks growing in the future)
2. this needs a "new" setup on the site manager only doing automatically the "text backup" only ( and mail it than if possible) -
3. I think , near all admins in wikidot have their email adress NOT on wikidot.

4. I second the idea to have an automatic "weekly standardized backup" of the text only (perhaps +Forum in the future) with standard backup file name ( overwriting the oldest from 3 - 7 weekly in a wrap around .
Doing an automatic copy/send/download is not really neccessary - the wikidot servers are "hot backup" permanently.. I believe this is the responsibility of a site manager.

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Re: Automatic Backup

Squark 22 Aug 2008 08:15

I heard something about this kind of function ( making automatic backup e.x. every week and sending via e-mail), but this could be available in Pro accounts. Maybe even there will be a possibility to make full site backup and download it via FTP or specified URL. I think it would be a good idea. I could go anytime at squark.wikidot.com/backup and find the latest backup file, download it to my computer and that's it. Whay do you think about it?

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Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 24 Aug 2008 01:58

I get two checkboxes when making a backup

Include page sources
Include file attachments

I can just turn off the second one and I just get text…

EDIT: Oops, this is supposed to be a reply to Helmuti_pdorf 's post….

Last edited on 24 Aug 2008 01:59 by RealG187 + Show more

Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 24 Aug 2008 02:01

!!!: I replied to your post on Squark, so might as well reply to his here….

I could go anytime at squark.wikidot.com/backup and find the latest backup file, download it to my computer and that's it. Whay do you think about it?

Well, it would still be on Wikidot's server so there could be cases when that would not be good….

Re: Automatic Backup

Helmuti_pdorf 24 Aug 2008 17:14

- it is okay with the nested level of 2 - confusing most of us here in answering and replying! :)

I do not understand the need you have - what does you hinder to download the backup-zip file on another place?
( like your computer - you can send than the zio file to another mail servce..)

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Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 28 Aug 2008 23:38

he said he could goto squark.wikidot.com, but that would still be on wikidot, but if it would be emailed to me, it would be on yahoo (since my email is yahoo)

Re: Automatic Backup

Helmuti_pdorf 29 Aug 2008 08:44

What is better on yahoo than on your local machine? ( or do you use a public pc/mac shared with others? ).

I think, the idea and the security of a "backup" is to store & spread the data on more than only one place.
And the problem is only to remember to do it periodically…
On my company pc there is a reminder of outlook to do it every week - than I make a new backup zip file on wikidot and make a download to my pc.
Than it is on two places stored…( wikidot.com and my pc)

What does it make it more secure to send it over / to your yahoo account ( periodically) .
You can do it manually of course to have it on a second backup storage…

To go back at the start and collect the idea:
You want

• a peridcally automatic backup
• with selectable content(text, files, meta data (tags, parents)
• and to send this (zip'd) file to a fixed mail adress,
• of course only if there are updates on the wiki site since the last backup….

As Squark said - this could be a primary account feature -(payable for everyone who wants this service).

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Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 30 Aug 2008 01:44

I would have in in (atleast 3 places)

• Wikidot
• My Yahoo Account
• My Computer

In case if I would forget to do a backup to my computer, then it would be nice to have one automatically emailed to me

Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 03 Sep 2008 03:41

When I have the 300 MB free hosting, can I (and am I allowed to) link directly?

I dont wanna say "hotlink" cuz that has a negative connotation.

But like on the forum I run, psphomebrew.net sometimes I upload Homebrew applications, and as of now I upload to the site mihd.net or ifile.it (one click hosters) and when vistors goto download they have to request the download link, it would be cool if I could just link directly, or am I only allowed to link to my files from my Wiki?

Re: Automatic Backup

Craig Macomber 03 Sep 2008 04:29

If it is legal under the TOS, international copyright law, and the laws of your nation and those of wikidot (Lets say the US and Poland), it should be fine. Assuming that the files are legal to put on your wiki, you just have the TOS to deal with. You have to have read the TOS to get an account, so you should know the answer shouldn't you? There is a link in the over right for a refresher, tho if I remember correctly is should be fine.

Re: Automatic Backup

LlamaNerds 03 Sep 2008 15:50

RealG:

I'm sure it's possible, because every file you upload has a 'real' url you could link to. If you open the files section on a page, and then hover over the individual files you should be able to get the url for them.

As to whether it's 'legal' or not, not sure. But if you want a better solution, you might check out http://www.uploadingit.com. It is another free hosting site that allows direct access, IIRC. I can't say as to whether it's the best out there, since it's the only one I've used, but I've been pretty happy with what little I use it for.

Last edited on 03 Sep 2008 15:51 by LlamaNerds + Show more

Re: Automatic Backup

RealG187 06 Sep 2008 00:27

It is cool to have direct linking. Free hosting sites are kind of annoying.

I will not abuse this.