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Awesome, thanks.

The Include is on the template, but if I start a new page in log: - it removes the include and just pulls in the info from the pages. Is there a way to have a new page not do that in the editing?

Edit: I looked at it seems it cannot be done, but there is mention of getting around it through use of iframe, is there an example of how that works somewhere?

You should be able to "break" the includes in your template by placing a space as the first character on the line or do something like "[ [include…" (put a space between the double brackets). and then fix the broken pieces before saving your new page based on the template.

It's not an elegant solution, but should work as long as you add instructions for the users in the template comments.

Yes, the approach that Ed mentioned is probably your best option.