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I tried it 3 times
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205225415|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Helmuti_pdorf Have a look on "my" talk page about the deletions

The reason is very clear:

The reason for deletion is there are not enough "real" people writing about wikidot!

The notability is not given - I have no idea of relevant Press notices or books.

Blog entries are NOT enough.

I will write here the 3 versions as a comment.

Could be someone have some references ?

If you try to write such article - first try it on a talk page or sandbox!


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Re: I tried it 3 times
gerdamigerdami 1205233207|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

The reason for deletion is there are not enough "real" people writing about wikidot!

Problem with suck a rule: is it applied equally for all articles and without any discrimination?


Aide Wikidot en Français ? Handbook !!!

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Re: I tried it 3 times
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205235656|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yeah!

The first rule ( CSD A7) says : no bands, parties, web-sites and so on woth a "relevant source" written "over" it.

The deletions was done by a daemon / bot!

The reason lies in the fact that I wrote about people and not about software…
and had not enough press releases, intervies and so on.

Which documents the relevance for a lot of people! :)


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Wikipedia:Wikidot Article (big) version 1
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205225623|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Please notice the forein wikipedia syntax!
AND: do not try to imnsert this text - it will be deleted because of the web links and the missing notability


Infobox Company
| company_name = Wikidot.Inc.
| company_logo = [[Image: wikidotlogo_200_2.png |200px]]
| slogan = free and professional wiki publishing, collaboration and communication solutions to anyone!
| vector_logo =
| company_type = private
| genre =
| foundation = 1.August, 2006
| founder = [[Michal Frackowiak]] (Toruń, Poland)
| location = Delaware, US
| key_people = [[Michal Frackowiak]], [[Pieter Hintjens]] (COE)
| area_served =
| industry =
| products = free hosted wiki service, Open Source wikidot software
| revenue = 20% from opt-in advertising
| operating_income =
| net_income =
| num_employees =
| parent =
| subsid =
| owner =
| homepage = Wikidot.com
| footnotes =

Wikidot.com is a [[wiki farm]] of [[Wiki]] Sites. Their mission is to provide free hosted wikis (like your-site.wikidot.com) with lots of features and professional wiki publishing, collaboration and communication solutions to anyone who needs it and wants it.
Wikidot.com offers users the ability to create websites using 'wiki' technology as used in Wikipedia and other products. Wikidot.com offers freedom from advertising, and free hosting for its users' websites. The company makes revenues from opt-in advertising and add-on services.
Wikidot.com is owned and operated by Wikidot Inc., founded in Delaware, US in 2007 by Wikidot.com founder [[Michal Frackowiak]] and a group of private investors. Wikdot.com was developed in Poland and was published as open source in January 2008. Wikidot Inc. derives revenue from opt-in advertising and services including support licenses.
About Wikidot Inc.
Wikidot Inc. is a privately-held corporation based in Delaware, US, with an operating office in Poland. The firm was founded in 2007 by Wikidot.com founder [[Michal Frackowiak]] and a group of private investors. For more information see [http://www.wikidot.com/company] .
The officers of the company are [[Pieter Hintjens]] (CEO) and [[Michal Frackowiak]] (General Manager of Polish operating office). [[Pieter Hintjens]] is CEO of [[iMatix Corporation]], past President of the [[FFII]], and has been active in the free and open source software field since 1991. [[Michał Frąckowiak]] is a former astrophysicist, certified software

==Software and features==
(Software is available free of charge to everyone at wikidot.org)
Wikidot uses its own [[software]] and wiki [[syntax]], both of which are under continuing development. It recently deleted the limit of members for "private" (closed shop) wikis.
Users can create free wikis, which can be ''public'' or ''private'' and only viewable by those who either know the wiki -site password or are definetly members. If owners of wiki-sites want to "monetizing" their site Wikidot uses Google's [[AdSense]] program to run ads)

'''Pros:'''

One of the advantages of the Wikidot is its support of password protected private wiki. ( now more than 40 % of the sites are private) and the easy to install and use of a site specific forum. The software is quite easy to use. Also, there is no restriction on the number of users, number of pages, or revisions.

'''Cons'''

A little drawback of theWikidot platform is its limited space offered for files ( images, pdf, doc, xls a.s.o -300 MB) for free. Not limited are all txt-pages and their revisions. But with the possiblity to embedd Videos, Images from other services this is not e a real problem.
Also, the Wikidot syntax is easy to use for beginners and non-technic starters, but if the beginners get more and more knowledge, they are often over roled by the lot of features and the sophisticated functionality.
The permissions are different to set for user-attributes, but in current release there is no possibility to "hide" a page or category.

==History==

The site was launched on 1. August 2006 under Rel 1.0 , an today (10. March 2008) there are more than 93.000 user with over a million pages of user-created content. Every day the wiki farm gets about 500 new users.

== See also ==

  • [[Comparison of wiki software]]

==External links==

[communities]

website-stub



Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

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Wikipedia: wikidopt (short) version 2
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205225774|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wikidot is a [[wiki farm]] of [[Wiki]] Sites which provides free hosted wikis (like your-site.wikidot.com) with lots of features and professional wiki publishing, collaboration and communication solutions to anyone. Wikidot.com offers users the ability to create websites using 'wiki' technology as used in Wikipedia and other products. Wikidot.com offers freedom from advertising, and free hosting for its users' websites.

Wikidot.com is owned and operated by Wikidot Inc., founded in Delaware, US in 2007 by Wikidot.com founder [[Michal Frackowiak]] and a group of private investors. Wikdot.com was developed in Poland and was published as open source in January 2008. Wikidot Inc. is a privately-held corporation based in Delaware, US, with an operating office in Poland. The firm was founded in 2007 by Wikidot.com founder [[Michal Frackowiak]] and a group of private investors.

The officers of the company are [[Pieter Hintjens]] (CEO) and [[Michal Frackowiak]] (General Manager of Polish operating office). [[Pieter Hintjens]] is CEO of [[iMatix Corporation]], past President of the [[FFII]], and has been active in the free and open source software field since 1991. [[Michał Frąckowiak]] is a former astrophysicist, certified software.

==Software and features==
The [[Open Source]] Software used is available free to everyone at wikidot.org .
Wikidot uses its own [[software]] and wiki [[syntax]], both of which are under continuing development. It recently deleted the limit of members for "private" (closed shop) wikis.

Users can create free wikis, whixh can be ''public'' or ''private'' and only viewable by those who know either the the wiki -site password or are definetly members.

'''Pros:'''

One of the advantages of the Wikidot is its support of password protected private wiki. ( now more than 40 % of the sites are private) and the easy to install and use of a site specific forum. The software is quite easy to use. Also, there is no restriction on the number of users, number of pages, or revisions.

'''Cons'''

A little drawback of theWikidot platform is its limited space offered for files ( images, pdf, doc, xls a.s.o -300 MB) for free. Not limited are all txt-pages and their revisions. But with the possiblity to embedd Videos, Images from other services this is not e a real problem.

Also, the Wikidot syntax is easy to use for beginners and non-technic starters, but if the beginners get more and more knowledge, they are often over roled by the lot of features and the sophisticated functionality.

The permissions are different to set for user-attributes, but in current release there is no possibility to "hide" a page or category.

The [[wiki farm]] was launched on 1. August 2006 under Rel 1.0 , an today (10. March 2008) there are more than 93.000 user worldwide in most countries with over a million pages of user-created content. Every day the [[wiki farm]] gets about 500 new users.

== See also ==

  • [[Comparison of wiki software]]

==External links==

[communities]



Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

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Wikipdeia:wikidot ( short) v3 ( + Reference list startet)
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205226119|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Please -
1. notice the reflist in reference section - this is buikld automatically by insertíon of a <ref> http….</ref> tag in the text at the proper situation.

2. Notice the missing external links to any website - I think this is not enough reference!

** WE NEED Press releases or interviews , not blogs! ""
AND:

We need at the moment of adding the article more authors, the "Creator" is not allowed to remove the "deletion " tags by himself!

Helmut.


Wikidot is a [[wiki farm]] of [[Wiki]] Sites which provides free hosted wikis (like your-site.wikidot.com) with lots of features and professional wiki publishing, collaboration and communication solutions to anyone. Wikidot offers users the ability to create websites using 'wiki' technology as used in Wikipedia and other products. Wikidot offers freedom from advertising, and free hosting for its users' websites.

Wikidot was founded by [[Michal Frackowiak]], developed in Poland and was published as open source in January 2008.

==Software and features==
The [[Open Source]] Software used is available free to everyone at wikidot.org.<ref> http://www.prnewsnow.com/Public_Release/Tech_Internet/178710.html Wikidot Platform Released as Open Source under Affero GPLv3 license]</ref>.
Wikidot uses its own [[software]] and wiki [[syntax]], both of which are under continuing development. It recently deleted the limit of members for "private" (closed shop) wikis.

Users can create free wikis, which can be ''public'' or ''private'' and only viewable by those who know either the wiki -site password or are explicit members.

'''Pros:'''

One of the advantages of the Wikidot is it's support of password protected private wiki. Now more than 40 % of the sites are private) and the easy to install and use of a site specific forum. The software is quite easy to use. Also, there is no restriction on the number of users, number of pages, or revisions.

'''Cons'''

A little drawback of the Wikidot platform is its limited space offered for files ( images, pdf, doc, xls a.s.o -300 MB) for free. Not limited are all txt-pages and their revisions. But with the possiblity to embedd Videos, Images from other services this is not e a real problem.

Also, the Wikidot syntax is easy to use for beginners and non-technic starters, but if the beginners get more and more knowledge, they are often over roled by the lot of features and the sophisticated functionality.

The permissions are different to set for user-attributes, but in current release there is no possibility to "hide" a page or category.

The [[wiki farm]] was launched on 1. August 2006 under Rel 1.0 , an today (10. March 2008) there are more than 93.000 user worldwide in most countries with over a million pages of user-created content. Every day the [[wiki farm]] gets about 500 new users.

== See also ==

  • [[Comparison of wiki software]]
  • [[Comparison of wiki farms]]

==References==
reflist

==External links==



Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

Pfft.
hartnellhartnell 1205226869|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

You remember when Mrs. Beasley came slithering around the wikidot PM system? Heh. I wonder if she's still associated with wikipedia. I wonder…

— Shawn

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They don't like us
GabrysGabrys 1205229143|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wikidot page on Wikipedia was once deleted some time ago. Moreover after my changes in Wiki Comparison (after changes in Wikidot — like adding AdSense share revenue) they reverted it. That really sucks :/


Piotr Gabryjeluk
visit my Dev blog

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hartnellhartnell 1205231598|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yeah, that says much about what's happening behind the scenes. Whether you can put your own ads on a wiki is a big issue to high-output content producers like myself. (just ask Michal).

— Shawn

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Re:
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205236013|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I can accept that wikipedia (english) does not want to be a promotion site for commercial wikis and their daughters…

And I can accept that in an encyclopedia is really the neccessarity to have a filter "what is relevant?" .

Otherwise a lot of nonsense will be written by any author.

But how can we demonstrate this relevance for much people ( not the commercial Adsense possibility !).

Only by press notices, interviews of radios, school papers, gazettes and so on. Not only blogs !

MY idea : I will write a book about web 2.0 and its solution in wikidot.org and offer it on www.lulu.com for people do order a printed version.

Than we can write a reference about a public book from a living people with relevant content for a lot of readers ( :) !)


Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

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Re: promotion site for commercial ...
gerdamigerdami 1205237865|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

promotion site for commercial

Let's delete the Microsoft entry !


Aide Wikidot en Français ? Handbook !!!

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Re: promotion site for commercial ...
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1205242744|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

There are a lot of books about this issue.. :)) !


Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

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Re: Try a fourth time !
gerdamigerdami 1205262319|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

With some material taken from
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=wikidot&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&tab=wn

Whistle-blower in India uses a blog for protection
International Herald Tribune - Jul 2, 2007
She built her Web site, fightcorruption.wikidot.com, with help from her son, a doctorate student in computer science at Delaware State University. …
All 2 related - Related web pages

In India, Protecting a Whistle-Blower
New York Times - Jul 5, 2007
She built her Web site, fightcorruption.wikidot.com, with help from her son, a doctoral student in computer science at Delaware State University. …
Related web pages

First the sitcom, then the romcom. Now welcome to the webcom, written…
Guardian Unlimited - Jul 10, 2007
Following each two-to-five-minute daily online episode, viewers are asked to contribute via so-called Wikidot technology that allows them to add, remove, …
Related web pages

First online sitcom lets viewers call the shots
Telegraph.co.uk - Nov 7, 2007
Called wikidot, it enables users to add, remove, and comment on the scripts. Henry Normal, the Baby Cow co-founder, said: "This has been by far the biggest …
Related web pages

Technology: Hot Cherry lands web TV account.(Brief article)
Free with registration - PR Week - AccessMyLibrary.com - Jul 27, 2007
The so-called 'dot.comedy' uses Wikidot technology to allow the public to participate in every stage of production, from dreaming up characters to …
All 2 related - Related web pages


Aide Wikidot en Français ? Handbook !!!

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unfold Re: Try a fourth time ! by gerdamigerdami, 1205262319|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
They are just jealous...
BrunhildaBrunhilda 1215604698|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

And fear form the competition… ;)

Meybe you should ask them why their wiki farm Wikia HAS the article and Wikidot cannot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikia

software and syntax in Wikia are exactly the same as in Wikipedia.

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Re: They are just jealous...
Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf 1215674842|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

to ask them is dangerous - they could detect wikidot and delete the netry….


Service is my success.
My webtips:www.blender.org, www.zusi.de

unfold Re: They are just jealous... by Helmuti_pdorfHelmuti_pdorf, 1215674842|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
This is interesting, too...
BrunhildaBrunhilda 1215604948|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_farms

comparison of wikifarms… Where some of those have articles… Not only wikia…

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Re: This is interesting, too...
Whane The WhipWhane The Whip 1220473600|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

If you want an entry for wikidot alone, you need to be able to show references of being in print media, not online. I've been able to get wikipedia articles in based on a single print reference, though be prepared to debate any edit or removal.

Also, I read the copy above, it was way too promotional. Even with legitimate press releases. You have to write the copy as if you were merely listing facts about a company, without attempting to sell it. For example:

Wikidot.com is a [[wiki farm]] of [[Wiki]] Sites. Their mission is to provide free hosted wikis (like your-site.wikidot.com) with lots of features and professional wiki publishing, collaboration and communication solutions to anyone who needs it and wants it.

That single part would be torn apart by wikipedia. I'm going to write an article on how to get into wikipedia. I'll post here when it is complete.

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unfold Re: This is interesting, too... by Whane The WhipWhane The Whip, 1220473600|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
How to get into Wikipedia
Whane The WhipWhane The Whip 1220627357|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Do note, that the your plan listed above; to publish your own book and use it as a reference in order to qualify a company profile wont work:

Wikipedia states that cited works must be independent of the subject:

Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including (but not limited to): self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc.

This was rushed but you may find it helpful: How to get into Wikipedia.

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Press release
GabrysGabrys 1221496800|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wikidot was at least once or twice mentioned in Polish press. Once in regional addition to popular newspaper and (I think) once in Polish IT/computer magazine (or Polish version of some global IT magazine).


Piotr Gabryjeluk
visit my Dev blog

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PBWiki deletion?
GabrysGabrys 1221496963|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeanutButterWiki

Especially:

This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page.
Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the guide to deletion.


Piotr Gabryjeluk
visit my Dev blog

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