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				<title>Why WikiScience?: Re: Why WikiScience?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nguyen Trong Quoc</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>44903</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree, no matter how open a wiki (or any other form of collaboration) is, a core team is always needed. But by site-owner, I did not mean <em>admin</em> (a.k.a manager) but rather <em>leader</em>. I'm not a good admin anyway so it's no problem if I leave.<br /> Leadership is so much harder to find and replace; especially when your site is not-for-profit. It's extremely hard to get someone as passionate about the community as the founder him/herself.</p> <p>I'm creating the <a href="http://bcom.wikidot.com">Business Community</a> wiki for students at my university only. So it's a small community, but that community changes. I mean, new students coming and old students left all the time. So while it is not a big community, on-going leadership is still an issue.</p> <p>So how do we pass the touch to the next generation of leaders? How do we ensure the soul of the project remains, when the originator left? What mechanism should we set up to ensure long-term functionality and ease of maintenance / extension to the project?… These questions are not easy.</p> 
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				<title>Why WikiScience?: Re: Why WikiScience?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55820/why-wikiscience#post-211543</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Craig Macomber</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>28020</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>However, if there are no other admins it is doomed because some things will never be able to be changed/fixed, and would be best moved to a new site with admins. A solution would be to use an aggressively managed community that promises to fix that issue. I think that, and spam site removal is the biggest reason behind hartnel's <a href="http://www.wikicomplete.info/">http://www.wikicomplete.info/</a></p> <p>Read his FAQ. By your definition of success, his server (running the same software) might be a better final place for your wiki. He will let someone else replace you if you leave and a new admin is needed to fix some things.</p> <p>I haven't considered moving anything there, but for non personal traditional wiki sites, it seems like a better concept. Wikidot is more optimized for sites that belong to small communities and people I think.</p> <p>I also agree completely with your definition of success.</p> 
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				<title>Why WikiScience?: Re: Why WikiScience?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55820/why-wikiscience#post-211536</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Nguyen Trong Quoc</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>44903</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>If the wiki can still achieve its goals after the site-owner left, then it is successful.</p> 
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				<title>What kind of wiki?: Re: What kind of wiki?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-69531/what-kind-of-wiki#post-206360</link>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Helmuti_pdorf</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>17609</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The interest of the people &amp; children are different. If the main usage ( = edit's) is in this category, than we ( the other wikidot users) can do nothing.</p> <p>I do not believe this is a shame. The players are the first who detect a new possibility for them. And not all of them are "cheating" .<br /> The developers are the next group (collaboration). And than the fan of TV or movies.</p> <p>Others are more knowledge based oriented and therefore depending of "input".<br /> This is the world we live in - or some of us :) .</p> 
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				<title>What is success for a wiki?: Re: What is success for a wiki?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55821/what-is-success-for-a-wiki#post-206108</link>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>NDP IB Admin</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>129300</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>That sounds about right. Many of the most obviously successful wikis (Wikipedia) are all about storing and sharing information. Everything else is secondary.</p> 
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				<title>What kind of wiki?: What kind of wiki?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>TheBlog</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>146245</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I was wandering around the mainpage when I noticed a strange thing: the top three wikis are about online games!<br /> You may also notice that the three top tags are: <strong>RPG</strong>, <strong>games</strong>/game and <strong>online</strong>!<br /> Isn't it a little weird?<br /> Seeing what I see, I must assume that the only way to have a rapresentative wiki here on wikidot that may spread the word of this great wikibuilder is a game played elsewhere?<br /> This sounds strange to me: can't we came up with something else and make a wiki at least as popular as those "game-cheaters"?</p> 
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				<title>What makes a good wiki-whacker?: Re: What makes a good wiki-whacker?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>9beckerc</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>138868</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree. A Good wiki admin is one whose sole goal is to please the members they acquire as well as be on the constant job of updating content, and adding new content. Keeping the members interested, and the viewers satisfied with the surprise of new content, is the reason one should create a wiki; to form a central community around a specialized topic.</p> 
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				<title>Why WikiScience?: Re: Why WikiScience?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>9beckerc</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>138868</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree, definitely. There is no fine line behind success of a Wiki, other than that of the personal goal of the Wiki-creator.</p> <p>Such goals could be as you listed, to have a certain number of pages, editors, active members or anything. Success of a wiki is most definitely more personal based rather than as a community. A personal goal that definitely should not be a sole goal would be that of, make this much money off of Adsense. The reason that would be an utterly immoral goal, as it would probably lead to the creation of pointless pages, and endless information that does not pertain to the site given. If money was a driving goal of a wiki, then a site originally focused around music, may just be generalized way too much, to include members who wouldn't like music, like a videogame forum. No harm in having a videogame wiki, the only problem would be, your site now includes members who like World of Warcraft, and some who like Children of Bodom. You would be making almost a brand new wikipedia, which we all know, already exists.</p> <p>Money isn't always a bad goal, but should never be the driving reason of creating a wiki. Personally, no matter what a person's definition of success is for a wiki, it is definitely centered around maintaing a wiki that is specific, sticks to one point, and pleases it's members by giving the information it promises to. Having such a goal to please one's members, is where a page creator's success becomes the success of the wiki as a whole.</p> 
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				<title>What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?: Re: What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55823/what-makes-a-wiki-better-than-another-kind-of-website#post-192749</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Remi Torracinta</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>93732</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>A nonwiki is written by one person, one view, one side of the story. By having a wiki, your not reading (or seeing) the thoughts of one person, but of many people having edited the page, improving it and improving it, pushing the content to it's best. Plus, information on wikis stay fresh and relavent to the present. (A new discovery concerning some branch of physics would quickly be posted, keeping the wiki fresh up to date, for example.) The god vs. bad is discussed on a site called "why wiki works". Just google it and you'll find it.</p> 
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				<title>Why WikiScience?: Re: Why WikiScience?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Remi Torracinta</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>93732</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree. Nevertheless, I think that rarely, particularly with wikis, which are constantly changing and growing, is there a clear cut success. I don't think there is a fine line between success and not success. A wiki could maybe be success<strong>ful</strong> but other than that it's hard to define it clearly. Take an informational site, for instance. At it's peak, there might be many editors, and most people who go on the site contribute in someway. At another time, it may seem to be dwarfed by another informational site. Because wiki's are everchanging (and that's the beauty of the wiki), I don't think we can really define success in terms of a wiki.</p> 
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				<title>What is a Wiki?: Re: What is a Wiki?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Socks</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>46434</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Basically funky books.</p> </blockquote> <p>Nicely put.</p> 
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				<title>What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?: Re: What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Craig Macomber</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>28020</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Even if the admin does all the work, it is usually easier to use wikidot than other systems (at least the few I have tried). Thats not a wiki thing though, thats just wikidot.</p> 
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				<title>What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?: Re: What makes a wiki better than another kind of website?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55823/what-makes-a-wiki-better-than-another-kind-of-website#post-176241</link>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Oli</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1247</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The admin doesn't have to do all the work. ;)</p> 
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				<title>What makes a good wiki-whacker?: Re: What makes a good wiki-whacker?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-55822/what-makes-a-good-wiki-whacker#post-176239</link>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Oli</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>1247</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I'd say you need to add a good amount of content yourself, and be in contact with the community, as you need not just to invite users, but to keep them there.</p> 
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				<title>Hmm... search misuse: Re: Hmm... search misuse</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>ErichSteinboeck</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7925</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>In Google Analytics what do you specify as the (required) “Query parameter”?</p> <p>“q”, “search:site” or what?</p> 
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				<title>What is a Wiki?: Re: What is a Wiki?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Deraius</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>124002</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I generally see a wiki as a sort of collective information source of the community involved in the wiki.</p> <p>Basically, open source information(for varying level of open). The more people involved, the more eyes can spot errors, omitted information, ambiguity, misleading information translate and so forth. In short, the more people involved, the better the quality of the information, the better the benefit for everyone. Another way to look at it is that every single contribution benefits every single contributor(this also includes viewers).</p> <p>The quality of information is directly proportional to the number of people, and I believe the ultimate goal is constantly improving the quality of information.</p> <p>Atleast, that is what I believe the major driving force is behind the popularity and growth of wiki's.</p> <p>As humans became more sophisticad, first information was passed on orally, then in writing(cave paintings-&gt;stone tablets-&gt;clay tablets-&gt;paper scrolls and books), then print(press books-&gt;printed books-&gt;fax-&gt;internet). The majory of the history of humankind's passing and preservation of information is either inaccurate(orally) or static and having a very small 'community'(usually only one person, the author). I believe wiki's to be the next step, improving on all previous forms. A record is kept of all changes so nothing is lost, the information constantly gets improved, and it is accessible to increasing percentages of humanity at increasingly less costs.</p> <p>So yeah, wiki's are basically funky books.</p> 
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				<title>Hmm... search misuse: Re: Hmm... search misuse</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>hartnell</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>10978</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>The crystal ball, of course. :) Analytics.</p> <p>— Shawn</p> 
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				<title>Hmm... search misuse: Re: Hmm... search misuse</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>ErichSteinboeck</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>7925</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>&gt; I've noticed that the largest percentage of internal searches on any wiki is usually "search this wiki"</p> <p>How do you know this?</p> 
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				<title>Hmm... search misuse: Re: Hmm... search misuse</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>That's something to think about. If this is was the case, what would you do first to help your member / reader understand the nature of the search box?</p> <p>— Shawn</p> 
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				<title>Hmm... search misuse: Re: Hmm... search misuse</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Perhaps they mistakenly believe that pushing the search button will open a new page with advanced search functions? If so they could be mistaking the "search this wiki" string as a decorated text block instead of an input box. My guess is that it's just users being naive.</p> 
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