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		<title>Coffee Table (new posts)</title>
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				<title>Google Wave: Re: Google Wave</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Easier to understand than wave</p> </blockquote> <p>LOL…!</p> 
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				<title>Google Wave: Re: Google Wave</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>David Marseilles</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>29608</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p><a href="http://easiertounderstandthanwave.com/">Easier to understand than wave</a></p> 
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				<title>Google Wave: Re: Google Wave</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>You might find some insight into why I don't think Google Wave is going to be so widely used <a href="http://patterns.wikidot.com">here</a>. It's interesting as a technical demo but fails to expose patterns that help people organize properly. That is my opinion today, in any case.</p> 
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				<title>Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Re: Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194495/stupid-beeeeep-internet-explorer#post-627008</link>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I looked into this but I don't know how easy this'll be on wikidot.</p> <p>Thanks for changing the link… As you could probably tell: I was annoyed :)</p> <p><strong>Update:</strong> I only briefly read that article you mentioned but I think one needs to be able to edit the actual html because I tried the if statements: <a href="http://www.havemycv.com/test:me" >http://www.havemycv.com/test:me</a> and now both FF and IE cannot open the menus.</p> 
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				<title>Google Wave: Re: Google Wave</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Yes, I watched the whole video a few months ago :) Very, very long… seemed exciting at the time.</p> <p>Having had a developer's preview ever since then, it's worn off a bit. It's exciting at first, but I can't honestly see it being as ground-breaking as I originally thought it would be.</p> 
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				<title>Google Wave: Google Wave</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ed Johnson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>38854</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Have you heard about this or perhaps are already participating?</p> <p><a href="http://wave.google.com/">http://wave.google.com/</a></p> <p>It's currently in limited preview. I watched the "loooooooong video" (1:20) last night and it is quite impressive! My son-in-law got an invite from a friend of a friend of his brother's and has been playing with it for a little while. I have a feeling Google has another huge hit on their hands with this one.</p> <p>Once this goes live, it'll be interesting to see how we might use this with Wikidot. If you can make the time, I highly recommend watching the video.</p> <p>-Ed</p> 
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				<title>Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Re: Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194495/stupid-beeeeep-internet-explorer#post-626861</link>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Ed Johnson</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>38854</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>So now I have to have it activate by simply hovering <a href="http://www.havemycv.com/">http://www.havemycv.com/</a> :(</p> </blockquote> <p>Bummer. I just peeked at your site (after fixing your link - you had <em>www<strong>/</strong>havemycv</em> instead of <em>www<strong>.</strong>havemycv</em>) and have to say I think the expanding and collapsing by hovering is annoying.</p> <p>Maybe you can punish just the IE users by using some browser-specific coding tricks and putting your old code back for the rest of us. I haven't done much of this, but this site has a good article about one of the techniques:<br /> <a href="http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-an-ie-only-stylesheet/">http://css-tricks.com/how-to-create-an-ie-only-stylesheet/</a></p> <p>-Ed</p> 
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				<title>Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Re: Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194495/stupid-beeeeep-internet-explorer#post-626800</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>When you first started modifying the theme I had a look and was impressed. Now when I have a look again, it's even better. Great job with the theme! :) Are you planning to add it to themes.wikidot.com? I'd definitely like to use it! :)</p> <p>And you're right — I just tested it in IE8 and the drop-down menus don't do anything when you click on them. I like how they behave in Firefox though (closing the menu back up when you move the mouse away)</p> 
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				<title>Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Stupid &lt;beeeeep&gt; Internet Explorer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194495/stupid-beeeeep-internet-explorer#post-626725</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I have been redesigning one of my sites and in the process changed my menu system. IE was displaying some collapsed menu buttons badly so I changed how they were collapsed.</p> <p>I was quite proud of this: <a href="http://www.havemycv.com/test:me" >http://www.havemycv.com/test:me</a><br /> This uses <em>just</em> CSS styling to make the drop-down menus. Unfortunately, now it turns out that IE can't understand "active" from this line: #side-bar li:<strong>active</strong> (CSS is on the page, it's at the bottom).</p> <p>So now I have to have it activate by simply hovering <a href="http://www.havemycv.com/" >http://www.havemycv.com/</a> :(</p> <p>It really is a case of banging yer head against a brick wall with Internet #&amp;*!%$ explorer…</p> <p>… AHHHHH!</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194085/redesigning-a-site-opinions-suggestions#post-626559</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Hahaha, I think I'll pass ;-)</p> <p><span style="color:#ffffff;">I may need therapy… but a bunch of hyperactive editors is just going to drag me right back in. So much for losing an addiction! :P</span></p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>pieterh</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>99</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <blockquote> <p>I just got back from work, so I'm on here checking a few things out and wading slowly through the 80+ mails from wikidot that I got today. I'm lucky, it used to be about 150 per day until I started unsubscribing from everything.</p> </blockquote> <p>:-) I'm going to start Wikiholics Anonymous, join the site and get notifications whenever we edit a page!!</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Yes! We should! :O</p> <p>I just got back from work, so I'm on here checking a few things out and wading slowly through the 80+ mails from wikidot that I got today. I'm lucky, it used to be about 150 per day until I started unsubscribing from everything.</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
				<link>http://community.wikidot.com/forum/t-194085/redesigning-a-site-opinions-suggestions#post-626512</link>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>James Kanjo</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>35113</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Shouldn't we be sleeping?</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Yeah I know.</p> <p>Can you think of a fix for the bug?</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>leiger</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>32953</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Businesses use IE… and they tend to like the older versions rather than updating as well -_-</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Right, up and running: <a href="http://www.havemycv.com/" >http://www.havemycv.com/</a></p> <p>Although, this theme <em>does</em> make my front page look quite ugly so that's what I'll be concentrating on now.</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Right, all ideas have been implemented, the buttons and logo have been tweaked and I think it's ready to go live.</p> <p>Still have the problem with IE showing the collapsed menu buttons badly once clicked. But who uses <em>that</em> crappy browser anyway? :D</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>wstone</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>285528</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>Thanks guys. The ads are more of an experiment than anything else: I got banned (long story) from Google adsense so I'm trying out iframing adbrite ads.</p> <p>Ok, to-do list:</p> <ul> <li>Remove top ad.</li> <li>Tweak link colours</li> <li>round-off corners… could an image be used for the background of #main-content so that it looks ok in <em>all</em> browsers?</li> </ul> <p>For the buttons, I used a wikidotted form of this: <a href="http://www.oscaralexander.com/tutorials/how-to-make-sexy-buttons-with-css.html" >http://www.oscaralexander.com/tutorials/how-to-make-sexy-buttons-with-css.html</a></p> <p>Unfortunately, I can't think of a way of making a fix for IE bug:</p> <ul> <li>Push one of the drop down buttons</li> <li>And again to collapse the links</li> <li>Now half of the button disappears :s</li> </ul> <p>Here's my wikidot version:</p> <ul> <li>Surround the links with "button class" and the collapsed links with "indent class".</li> <li>Then use the following CSS:</li> </ul> <div class="code"> <div class="hl-main"> <pre> <span class="hl-identifier">.button</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-identifier">a</span><span class="hl-brackets">{</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-reserved">background:</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">transparent</span><span class="hl-code"> url('/local--files/test:css/openpush.png') </span><span class="hl-string">no-repeat</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">top</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">left</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">text-decoration:</span><span class="hl-string">none</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">color:</span><span class="hl-var">black</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">display:</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">block</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">padding:</span><span class="hl-number">4</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">0</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">4</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">8</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">margin:</span><span class="hl-number">0</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">0</span><span class="hl-code"> -</span><span class="hl-number">8</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">5</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-brackets">}</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-identifier">.button</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-identifier">a</span><span class="hl-special">:active</span><span class="hl-brackets">{</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-reserved">background:</span><span class="hl-code"> url('/local--files/test:css/openpush.png') </span><span class="hl-string">no-repeat</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">bottom</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">left</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">outline:</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-string">none</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-reserved">color:</span><span class="hl-var">black</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-brackets">}</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-identifier">.indent</span><span class="hl-brackets">{</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-reserved">margin:</span><span class="hl-number">0</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">0</span><span class="hl-code"> -</span><span class="hl-number">8</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code"> </span><span class="hl-number">10</span><span class="hl-string">px</span><span class="hl-code">; </span><span class="hl-brackets">}</span> </pre></div> </div> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>RobElliott</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>111301</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>I agree with what Ed has said and additionally think you need to look at all the link colors. For example, lightening the links and the footer color itself would make the Powered By and options links in the footer readable. At the moment the lack of contrast for the links presents a bit of an accessibility issue. I know how time-consuming it can be to get links right for all eventualities across a whole site. You don't necessarily need anything too bright but you will need to test the links when you have a white background, as well as against the blue background.</p> <p>Given that you have rounded corners for the buttons, and the title image is also curved, the square corners of the top of the main content make it look (for me) a bit odd. I know this wouldn't work for IE but you might want to consider adding -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px and -moz-border-radius-topright:10px - and -webkit-border-radius of course - to soften the corners slightly for those of us on FF and Safari.</p> <p>I agree with Brunhilda about the ad boxes, particularly the one in the centre at the top of the page. Given that top centre is one of the first places the eye goes to on a site, the ad box in that position slightly takes the focus away from the site itself. That's great for the advertiser but not really what <em>you</em> want.</p> 
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				<title>Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?: Re: Redesigning a site... opinions? suggestions?</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
				<wikidot:authorName>Brunhilda</wikidot:authorName>				<wikidot:authorUserId>91730</wikidot:authorUserId>				<content:encoded>
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						 <p>It is very nice, I really like it… The only thing I don't like is this add at the top of everything…</p> <p>Maybe, when you finish, you can put this theme on the Themes site…</p> 
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